Bad Santa 2

2016 "Giving the holidays another shot."
5.6| 1h32m| R| en| More Info
Released: 23 November 2016 Released
Producted By: Miramax
Country: United States of America
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Fueled by cheap whiskey, greed and hatred, Willie Soke teams up with his angry little sidekick, Marcus, to knock off a Chicago charity on Christmas Eve. Along for the ride is chubby and cheery Thurman Merman, a 250-pound ray of sunshine who brings out Willie's sliver of humanity. Issues arise when the pair are joined by Willie's horror story of a mother, who raises the bar for the gang's ambitions, while somehow lowering the standards of criminal behavior.


Comedy, Crime, Mystery

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Crwthod A lot more amusing than I thought it would be.
Tymon Sutton The acting is good, and the firecracker script has some excellent ideas.
Bob This is one of the best movies I’ve seen in a very long time. You have to go and see this on the big screen.
Geraldine The story, direction, characters, and writing/dialogue is akin to taking a tranquilizer shot to the neck, but everything else was so well done.
powermandan The original 'Bad Santa' from 2003 is a raunchy classic. A washed-up Santa and his elf friend annually rob malls they work at; then Santa's habits are catching up with him and he befriends a kid who he grows to care about. The movie is dark, the jokes are hilarious, and there is so much depth in the characters that give the movie its heart. Anything wrong with a sequel to this? Not at all. Anything wrong with a sequel being made more than a decade after the original? Absolutely. One thing almost certain about sequels that are released a decade or more after the predecessor is that is it will be a hugely inferior retread. Case-in-point, 'Bad Santa 2.''Bad Santa' from 2003 was no masterpiece by any means, but at least everything was fresh and its heart was in the right place. The sequel tries to recapture what worked before with only a few elements coming out good.Billy Bob Thornton returns as the sex-addicted alcky, Willie Soke. He's had a bunch of odd jobs since quitting the heist business, but has not amounted to anything and hasn't changed much. Thurman Merman/The Kid still comes by and annoys Willie. This is the essence of both films that played the groundwork. It's The Kid who makes this sequel worth sitting through. Thurman is going to be 21 in a few days and it's funny to see that he hasn't changed much either. There's a few sexual jokes with Willie and The Kid that I'll admit made me laugh a bit.Then familiar and dull territory gets taken advantage of with the arrival of Willie's old sideckick, Marcus. Willie still isn't over his betrayal, but reluctantly accepts Marcus' plan: steal over a million dollars' worth of donations from a homeless shelter in Chicago. Marcus' man on the inside is Willie's mother played by Kathy Bates. One of my favourite actresses ever is one of the major drawback in this film. It didn't hurt to see her play anybody foul-mouthed, its how bad her writing and delivery of it all was. There's someone else bad on the inside who's a rival, and forgettable and impossible to care for.As as I started, this tries to recycle almost everything of the first. Still lots of sex (actually way more sex this time around), lots of booze, lots of swearing, same setups, same results, and very little is actually funny. Not horrid, just stuff to brush off in an instant. The Kid decides to pay a surprise to Willie as an early Christmas present. This element with Thurman comes the closest to reaching the level of the first. Willie and Thurman is not as good here as it was before, but we still very much enjoy them both this time around. Without Thurman Merman and Willie, the movie would have floundered more and my rating would be lower. But as it is, 'Bad Santa 2' is nothing special, yet not an abysmal failure.
taijiquan12 2003's Bad Santa is the ultimate irreverent Christmas movie. If you're burnt out on sappy, overly sweet joy around the holiday season, the dark, raunchy, unashamedly politically incorrect content of the first is the perfect antidote to that. The original also had great performances and a story with some actual heart to it in the end. The sequel, strangely made over a decade later, is more of the same, just not quite as fresh, without as much meaning and heart in it, but still entertaining, especially if like me, you're a fan of the original. The story, following down-on-his luck deadbeat safecracker Willie Soke, kind of tarnishes the happy ending of the original, and in a way undoes a lot of the character development that Willie went through. It's kind of a back-to-square one opening that resets the story to the place of the original, which is more or less what this installment is. I knew that going in and enjoyed some of the foul lines and funny situations, but the original had the support of (unfortunately deceased) gifted performers such as Bernie Mac and John Ritter, both very skilled comedians for Billie Bob to play off of, even Ajay Naidu from Office Space making a cameo. The sequel features Oscar Winners Octavia Spencer and Kathy Bates, as well as Mad Men alumni Christina Hendricks, as well as returning cast members Tony Cox and a grown Brett Kelly, who looks more or less the same just slightly taller. Bates does well as Soke's mother, but the addition of her character to the story sort of feels like the concept getting stretched, which is what this entire movie is. Although still funny, a segment in the film that features a heist of a high-priced estate feels forced and tacked on into the plot, seemingly an excuse to repeat the scene from the original with the kids sitting on Santa's Lap, with Willie confused and disgusted by what they ask for. A lot of the movie is like this, and it suffers from not having the indie-film feel that Ghost World director Terry Zwigoff brought to the original. It feels a bit more stripped down and an imitation of that style, and like I mentioned earlier, it just doesn't have the same heart. I would more or less only recommend this if you've seen the first multiple times and like it, and really want to see more of Willie and his messed up friends, like I did. If you've never seen either, see the original, and if you only thought it was fun for that one time watching it, you should probably leave it at that.I definitely hope that in another 13 years, we don't get yet another Bad Santa. I can't really figure out why they decided to wait so long after the feeling and interest of the original died down to do this, but the concept and idea is officially stretched as far as it can go. The talent on display and some of the genuinely funny laugh lines in this keep this from being firmly average.
1914 Bad Santa has been ruined just like Dumb & Dumber. It's as if the lazy ignorant degenerate Hollywood writers hate & despise comedy & want smarmy ugliness in its place with a small community niche fixation on the glories of sodomy,doing everything in their limited vocabulary of "F" words & generic hardcore poo poo jokes to utterly destroy any fond memories one might have had ...welcome to the New America your not Kansas anymoreWhy the hate?Now with Bad Santa 2 Sodomy is the MAIN theme with alcoholism secondary. Billy Bob bangs(sodomizes) two mousy horny women, ones a rich recovering alcoholic the other a plump security guard . The acts happen near a dumpster,Christmas tree lot and bar bathroom out of the blue a blonde party hostess masturbates Billy Bob for no apparent rhyme or reason while the birthday kiddies are in the next room.I guess the HIV/AIDS epidemic & Hollywood hysterics from drama queens is so passé.Billy Bob's character looks gaunt, medicated & suicidal...I wonder what Bad Santa Christmas cheer he's still trying to spread while in a alcoholic haze & without a condom?The Black dwarf is still angry but now has new murderous thug persona . Billy Bobs mom (Kathy Bates) is an old swearing tramp stamp whore in one of her worst-best 'Misery' flashback roles.The clueless fat innocent kid from the original is now a stalking clueless twenty year old retarded man-child with a dismal future ahead of him (I worry about him) Insultingly bad and distressful knowing the suicidal drunk & perpetual man-child may be homeless together with Santa Lennie sodomizing self hating women & George watching behind a dumpster.A one star * black-out ,bathhouse hangover.
bladesofchaossixsix This definitely feels like the original. Too bad they didn't meet their budget. I would love to see a Bad Santa 3. I'm still wondering if the real Therman Murman ever has even studied sexual education. He's the best loser I have ever seen. I mean honestly 21 years old and singing in a f(expletive)cking choir. Sh*tstick was classic too. Sh*tstick's mom was great ever since her appearance as Adam Sandler's mother in the Waterboy. Thank god Thurman Merman wasn't laid in the film. Maybe in the next one eh buddy.